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MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger Searle
 

All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Steve Harding
 

Roger,
I can (sort of) answer #2. I had my GT lowered by Pete Cosmides. You could contact him about how easily it can be done. “Safety Fast!”
Steve Harding 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Roger Searle
 

Thanks Steve.  Did the handling change?

Happy New


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harding via groups.io <mgbgt1@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2022 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger,
I can (sort of) answer #2. I had my GT lowered by Pete Cosmides. You could contact him about how easily it can be done. “Safety Fast!”
Steve Harding 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Steve Harding
 

Yes, very much so. At one time I had a 1967 roadster and after Pete lowered my GT it had the handling I remembered from the B. 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 12:02 PM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


Thanks Steve.  Did the handling change?

Happy New


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harding via groups.io <mgbgt1@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2022 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger,
I can (sort of) answer #2. I had my GT lowered by Pete Cosmides. You could contact him about how easily it can be done. “Safety Fast!”
Steve Harding 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Ed Emery
 

Q1, I added a roll bar to my 75 roadster and it helped but as I understand there are differences in the diameter which result in different handling characteristics.

 

Q2, Moss sells a kit for lowering. I have not done it but supposedly it does result in improved handling. Just makes getting in and out a bit harder

Also Pete has retired so Sweeney might be your man.

 

Ed E

 

From: main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io [mailto:main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Harding via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

 

Yes, very much so. At one time I had a 1967 roadster and after Pete lowered my GT it had the handling I remembered from the B. 



On Dec 31, 2022, at 12:02 PM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:



Thanks Steve.  Did the handling change?

 

Happy New

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harding via groups.io <mgbgt1@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2022 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger,

I can (sort of) answer #2. I had my GT lowered by Pete Cosmides. You could contact him about how easily it can be done. “Safety Fast!”

Steve Harding 



On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:



All,

 

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

 

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

 

Happy New Year

 

Roger Searle

Kevin McLemore
 

I can't speak to MGBs, but yes, in general ant-roll bars really do help handling. Here's my TD at the Put-in-Bay races without an anti-roll bar (factory setup)...



Notice the rear wheel burying itself in the wheel arch! We were flat out, and I was pushing it hard to slide a bit to get the best turns, but the car just wouldn't slide for me.

Here's Kurt Byrnes on the same track, in his really trick TD (He says "Hey, I was just out for a drive when all these cars started chasing me!" 😆)


Notice how much flatter it rides - so much so that not one, but BOTH wheels come off.

Yeah, an anti-roll bar definitely helps if you're gonna push the car hard. 🙂  If not... well, it also makes the car ride a bit nicer through the curves. 

Cheers,
Kevin

From: main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io <main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 12:02 PM
To: main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io <main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars
 
Thanks Steve.  Did the handling change?

Happy New


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harding via groups.io <mgbgt1@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2022 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger,
I can (sort of) answer #2. I had my GT lowered by Pete Cosmides. You could contact him about how easily it can be done. “Safety Fast!”
Steve Harding 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Jeep Tenneson
 

Roger , I lowered my '79 using the Moss kit.  I think it does handle better and I like the look !

 

                                                       Jeep

-----Original Message-----
From: <main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io>
Sent: Dec 31, 2022 11:43 AM
To: phillymgclub@groups.io <phillymgclub@groups.io>
Subject: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

 

All,
 
Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?
 
Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?
 
Happy New Year
 
Roger Searle

 

Bernie Hall
 

Hi Roger,

I have a '66B and it has an ARB up front. I believe it is original to the car.

Bernie

From: main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io <main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 11:42 AM
To: phillymgclub@groups.io <phillymgclub@groups.io>
Subject: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars
 
All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

James J Schulte
 

Roger
My GT has a lowering kit on it from Moss. Not to difficult. 
Roll bars that only attach in the back are dangerous on roll over.
Jim


On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:53 PM, Bernie Hall
<behall5@...> wrote:
Hi Roger,

I have a '66B and it has an ARB up front. I believe it is original to the car.

Bernie
From: main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io <main@PhillyMGClub.groups.io> on behalf of Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 11:42 AM
To: phillymgclub@groups.io <phillymgclub@groups.io>
Subject: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars
 
All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

James J Schulte
 

Roger
In my first reply on the first question You posted I miss understood anti roll bar. My knowledge of that it is called ant sway bar not anti roll bar.
They come in several sizes. They definitely make a difference the thicker they are. If you really want to change the handling, put one on the front and the back. 
I put a 1” bar on the front of my MGC and a 3/4” bar on the rear. If they had done that at production the MGC would not have gotten the bad press at it’s introduction.
They are not difficult to install if you have the car on a lift. I replaced my 74.5 BGT’s to front sway bar to 3/4” and lowered the front with shorter coil springs (about 1 coil) and used the Moss 1” lowering kit. Really transforms the cornering.


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

James J Schulte
 

Roger
You might also research Fab-tech and Dave Headley an MGB Specialist.

 



On Jan 1, 2023, at 8:33 AM, James J Schulte via groups.io <schultejim@...> wrote:

Roger
In my first reply on the first question You posted I miss understood anti roll bar. My knowledge of that it is called ant sway bar not anti roll bar.
They come in several sizes. They definitely make a difference the thicker they are. If you really want to change the handling, put one on the front and the back. 
I put a 1” bar on the front of my MGC and a 3/4” bar on the rear. If they had done that at production the MGC would not have gotten the bad press at it’s introduction.
They are not difficult to install if you have the car on a lift. I replaced my 74.5 BGT’s to front sway bar to 3/4” and lowered the front with shorter coil springs (about 1 coil) and used the Moss 1” lowering kit. Really transforms the cornering.


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Roger Searle
 

Thanks Jim.

I'm considering restomoding an early (Series 1) B.  And part of my interest is do these early Bs have anti-roll/sway bars.


-----Original Message-----
From: James J Schulte via groups.io <schultejim@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Cc: phillymgclub@groups.io <phillymgclub@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2023 9:01 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger
You might also research Fab-tech and Dave Headley an MGB Specialist.
 


On Jan 1, 2023, at 8:33 AM, James J Schulte via groups.io <schultejim@...> wrote:

 Roger
In my first reply on the first question You posted I miss understood anti roll bar. My knowledge of that it is called ant sway bar not anti roll bar.
They come in several sizes. They definitely make a difference the thicker they are. If you really want to change the handling, put one on the front and the back. 
I put a 1” bar on the front of my MGC and a 3/4” bar on the rear. If they had done that at production the MGC would not have gotten the bad press at it’s introduction.
They are not difficult to install if you have the car on a lift. I replaced my 74.5 BGT’s to front sway bar to 3/4” and lowered the front with shorter coil springs (about 1 coil) and used the Moss 1” lowering kit. Really transforms the cornering.


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

Bernie Hall
 

Hi Roger,
If you would like to come and examine my 66 series 1 B, you are welcome to do so.
- Bernie

Sent from Blue
On Jan 1, 2023, at 9:27 AM, "Roger Searle via groups.io" <aol.com@groups.io target=_blank>searlerb=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Jim.

I'm considering restomoding an early (Series 1) B.  And part of my interest is do these early Bs have anti-roll/sway bars.


-----Original Message-----
From: James J Schulte via groups.io <schultejim@...>
To: main@phillymgclub.groups.io
Cc: phillymgclub@groups.io <phillymgclub@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2023 9:01 am
Subject: Re: [PhillyMGClub] MGB Anti-Roll Bars

Roger
You might also research Fab-tech and Dave Headley an MGB Specialist.
 


On Jan 1, 2023, at 8:33 AM, James J Schulte via groups.io <schultejim@...> wrote:

 Roger
In my first reply on the first question You posted I miss understood anti roll bar. My knowledge of that it is called ant sway bar not anti roll bar.
They come in several sizes. They definitely make a difference the thicker they are. If you really want to change the handling, put one on the front and the back. 
I put a 1” bar on the front of my MGC and a 3/4” bar on the rear. If they had done that at production the MGC would not have gotten the bad press at it’s introduction.
They are not difficult to install if you have the car on a lift. I replaced my 74.5 BGT’s to front sway bar to 3/4” and lowered the front with shorter coil springs (about 1 coil) and used the Moss 1” lowering kit. Really transforms the cornering.


On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Roger Searle via groups.io <searlerb@...> wrote:


All,

Question #1.  Do early (mid-60s) Bs have anti-roll bars?  If not, does anyone have experience with the difficulty and improvement of adding one to these models?

Question #2.  Does anyone have experience with lowering a late model (1978) B.  I'm interested to know if it is difficult and worth it?

Happy New Year

Roger Searle

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