Re: Tire installation - Creamery tire


Rich Williamson
 

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On Jul 23, 2014, at 5:34 PM, "'rcapriohomes@...' rcapriohomes@... [Philly_MG_Club]" <Philly_MG_Club@...> wrote:

 

What happened to the original liners ????

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From: "schultejim schultejim@... [Philly_MG_Club]" <Philly_MG_Club@...>
To: "MG Club Philadelphia" <Philly_MG_Club@...>
Subject: [Philly_MG_Club] Tire installation - Creamery tire
Date: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 3:56 pm


 

Rich,
So if I read this right. I took your wire wheels to Creamery tire with tires on them. Yes, Creamery then would be responsible to make sure the bands were placed correctly to prevent puncturing of the tube. My point was, you ordered new liners 2 day delivery. All you had to do was call George and I could have dropped them off. The blowout situation was unfortunate and lucky at the same time. I am glad you are ok!!!!!
When I restored my MGC back in 2004. I researched problems with wire wheels. Two glaring negative things came up. One was the amount of flex they have on cornering. Two was the same thing that happened to you. I chose to discard them and go with Minilite knockoffs. Just an fyi not to belabor your misfortune. We make choices about these cars based on what we like. Some people that have had wire wheels for the cars life will disagree wiith my choice. That is there previledge. That's what is so cool about this hobby.
Safety Fast,
Jim


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From: "Rich Williamson rjw@... [Philly_MG_Club]" <Philly_MG_Club@...>
Date: 07/23/2014 12:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Philly_MG_Club@...
Subject: Re: [Philly_MG_Club] Tire installation - Creamery tire


 

Hey Jim…  


George suggested Creamery tire to me… and YOU were the one who took my tires & wheels to Creamery - remember?    :)

I always consult with George for my MG issues.  I am a good customer of his, and have spent a fair amount of $ there.  I plan to continue with this trend.

I had no idea that this type of item was needed.  I assumed (wrongly) that Creamery knew how to handle this type of wheel and had everything they needed to perform this work.

As I previously said, in the end it all worked out, but I was pretty concerned, annoyed, and relieved that this instant blowout did not happen at high speed.

Rich

On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:00 AM, James Schulte schultejim@... [Philly_MG_Club] <Philly_MG_Club@...> wrote:

 

FYI,
Rakafish has the liners on the shelf. You should contact George whenever you have an MG problem. I for the life of me don't understand people's reluctance to call him for help. He is a club member and a Moss Distributor. Just doesn't make sense!
Jim

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On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:58 PM, "rjw@... [Philly_MG_Club]" <Philly_MG_Club@...> wrote:

 
I thought I would pass along my experience with Creamery Tire.

I had 4 new tires installed on my wire rims (traditional painted 14 inch rims).

As you may know, wire rim wheels need inner tubes, even when installing "tubeless" tires.

I was driving around all day in my car, and stopped at a stop sign.  I accelerated pretty hard away from the stop sign, and immediately I felt the spin / wobble of a fast blowout.

I am really happy that this did not happen at highway speed.  That could have been catastrophic!

Once I pulled over (only a couple of feet) to change the tire, I immediately saw that there was no rubber wheel liner / rim band to protect the tube from the rough spokes.

I contacted Creame ry, and they told me to stop in.  I dropped the burst tire, and told them that I wanted to return in a couple of days to have the other wheels checked for liners.

When I talked to the manager there, he told me that he could not get the liners, and that they would run a couple of layers of duct tape around the rim.   I did not like hearing this.

That evening, I did a little online research, and found out that the duct tape solution was not a good one, and that it typically will heat up and melt over time.  I found a posting with a link to the Moss Motors site.  The link took me to a page that sold the rubber liners.  I called in an order (I had to pay for 2 day shipping in order to get the parts in time for my next appointment.



When I went back to Creamery Tire, I had them remove all of the wheels to check if the rubber was inside the wheels.  I found out that 3 of the 4 wheels on the car had rubber in them (3 out of 5 total wheels including the spare that they set up had rubber in them).  Of the wheels that had rubber in them, the rubber looked a little old and in need of replacement.

The guys in the workshop were really excellent, and made sure everything was set up properly, and that the wheels had the rubber in them.  They liked the car, and allowed me to watch in the first bay while they worked on it (since they were confused what to do to the car - I supervised).  At that point the tires were all set up properly.

I then went into the office and was told that I had an invoice for the time and for a new tube.  I asked why I had to pay anything, since they had set the wheels up incorrectly in the first place.  I told them that it was lucky that this blowout did not happen at speed.  I was quiet and polite, and after some talk back and forth between the cashier and the manager, they told me that it was free of charge.  He did say that he only does 5 cars like this a year.

At the end, I did get what I paid for, but with a few significant bumps along the way.  I still think that they are a decent company, but they need to be told about installing the liners, and you need to buy them yourself.




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